Sunday, August 10, 2008
39. Is It Five PAIR or Five PAIRS of Socks?
Greetings again, all of you grammar lovers and I hope you're all doing well.
Today, I have decided to tackle another one of those very common errors we constantly hear that, I must admit, is going through some transition today. As I've said many times before, our language continues to change and certain expressions we hear many times today may have been considered terrible mistakes fifty years ago, for example. For this reason, Webster's now includes words in our dictionaries that are becoming semi-acceptable, and this is so because they are used so often. However, this doesn't mean that we should include these expressions in our own speech. After all, there are plenty of folks besides English teachers who cringe at the use of some of these bloopers.
One such error that is slowly creeping into the common use file today is the misuse of PAIR and PAIRS. Now we all know that A PAIR of something generally means ONE of a group of items:
ONE PAIR of shoes means exactly what it says.
ONE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed...meaning there are two different shoes under the bed--one for the right foot and one for the left foot...but together they are called ...A PAIR or one group.
However, if you were to say...
FIVE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed...you would be implying that there are ten different shoes under the bed, but you're not saying it correctly. Here, you should say...
FIVE PAIRS of shoes sit under the bed...an S is needed on PAIR to make it plural!
Remember how Webster's defines PAIR: two corresponding things designed for use together as one thing.
All you need to remember is to use the plural (PAIRS) when there are more than one groups of items, things, etc. Pretty easy, huh?
Advertisers in newspapers and on television quite frequently use these two words incorrectly. Watch out for ads that say something such as...
THREE PAIR OF PAJAMAS ON SALE FOR $ 19.99...or...
TWO PAIR OF PANTS FOR $14.95...0r...
FOUR PAIR OF GLOVES TODAY FOR $9.99.
Groan...Where have these writers been all their lives? All three of these sentences are incorrect because each pair refers to more than one group of items! Just place the S on the end of PAIR and you'll be correct.
Well, all right! What a simple rule to learn! Just remember that an S on a noun means it is plural and that's what you mean when you say...
I bought three PAIRS of overalls to wear when I work in the fields...AHHHH...such music to my ears!
Have a great week doing what you enjoy most. Peace and happiness, GG
Today, I have decided to tackle another one of those very common errors we constantly hear that, I must admit, is going through some transition today. As I've said many times before, our language continues to change and certain expressions we hear many times today may have been considered terrible mistakes fifty years ago, for example. For this reason, Webster's now includes words in our dictionaries that are becoming semi-acceptable, and this is so because they are used so often. However, this doesn't mean that we should include these expressions in our own speech. After all, there are plenty of folks besides English teachers who cringe at the use of some of these bloopers.
One such error that is slowly creeping into the common use file today is the misuse of PAIR and PAIRS. Now we all know that A PAIR of something generally means ONE of a group of items:
ONE PAIR of shoes means exactly what it says.
ONE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed...meaning there are two different shoes under the bed--one for the right foot and one for the left foot...but together they are called ...A PAIR or one group.
However, if you were to say...
FIVE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed...you would be implying that there are ten different shoes under the bed, but you're not saying it correctly. Here, you should say...
FIVE PAIRS of shoes sit under the bed...an S is needed on PAIR to make it plural!
Remember how Webster's defines PAIR: two corresponding things designed for use together as one thing.
All you need to remember is to use the plural (PAIRS) when there are more than one groups of items, things, etc. Pretty easy, huh?
Advertisers in newspapers and on television quite frequently use these two words incorrectly. Watch out for ads that say something such as...
THREE PAIR OF PAJAMAS ON SALE FOR $ 19.99...or...
TWO PAIR OF PANTS FOR $14.95...0r...
FOUR PAIR OF GLOVES TODAY FOR $9.99.
Groan...Where have these writers been all their lives? All three of these sentences are incorrect because each pair refers to more than one group of items! Just place the S on the end of PAIR and you'll be correct.
Well, all right! What a simple rule to learn! Just remember that an S on a noun means it is plural and that's what you mean when you say...
I bought three PAIRS of overalls to wear when I work in the fields...AHHHH...such music to my ears!
Have a great week doing what you enjoy most. Peace and happiness, GG
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The power of the internet...I googled this exact question and here it is! Thanks for clearing it up for me. And for the record, I was correct when taking about PAIRS of pajamas.
This helped me too. Like "anonymous," I was right and other people were wrong. It was nice to confirm it so easily.
Nice to see that there are others out there who (that? Who!) are just as anal as I.
Speaking of being anal, I seem to recall being taught that . . . animate objects "sit" & inanimate objects "set".
That said, those shoes under the bed? They're setting there & not sitting there.
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Correction: "Nice to see that there are others out there who are just as anal as me [not I]."
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As an ESL teacher, this makes perfect logical sense. However, I am curious if there is a grammar rule that allows for no plural use when putting pair at the end of the sentence? (Example: We paid the regular price for two pair.)
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To one of the previous anonymous posters, 'a lot' is two words. =-]
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The Correction: "Nice to see that there are others out there who are just as anal as me [not I]," is incorrect. They are just as anal as I [am], not as me [is].
However, objects sit there, and objects are set there. It doesn't matter if they are animate or inanimate.
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Could you consider addressing anyways vs. anyway? Do you add the 's'?
If we are writing about shoes under the bed, we should write, 'One pair of shoes sits under the bed.' 'One pair' is singular and requires the singular verb, SITS.
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according to webster dictionary, the plural of pair is PAIR OR PAIRS. So it's both.
WEBSTER shows plural of pair is pair or pairs. So both is OK
If Webster's defines PAIR as two corresponding things designed for use together as one thing -- as in a right and left shoe (two items) --- each 'set' a 'pair' -- how does a 'pair' of overalls or a 'pair' of pants qualify - one item in my book ---interesting; you can lose 'one' shoe or 'one' glove from each 'pair' but if you lose a 'pair' of pants -- oops --alll gone :-)
Correction: "Nice to see that there are others out there who are just as anal as me [not I]."
I'm two years late to the party here, but the original poster was correct in saying "I," and the italicized quote that I've copied and pasted above is incorrect. When you're comparing and use "as" or "than," the majority of the time (there can be exceptions) you use "I," as in "I am." The verb -- in this case, "am" -- can be implied.
As for the actual blog post itself, I'm curious about the origin -- and veracity -- of the oft-used poker phrase, "2 pair." Further elaboration would be helpful.
As a collective noun, the pair of shoes sits (not sit) under the bed.
Sorry to be late to this party.
is a pair of socks (gloves, shoes etc.) a one item or two items . kindly reply for scissors , pants etc. also
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you are flat-out WRONG. "pair" is an accepted alternate with a long history. a person who says "5 pair of shoes" is not doing it out of ignorance but out of literary influence. read the classics. plural "pair" was once as common as plural "sheep" or "fish".
Just a minor correction. One should say "One pair of shoes sits under the bed." This is because the word pair is singular. "Two pairs of shoes sit under the bed, but one pair is (not are) missing."
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Just another wrench... in cards it is 'two pair' rather than 'two pairs'...
Just a minor correction. One should say "One pair of shoes sits under the bed." This is because the word pair is singular. "Two pairs of shoes sit under the bed, but one pair is (not are) missing."
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you are flat-out WRONG. "pair" is an accepted alternate with a long history. a person who says "5 pair of shoes" is not doing it out of ignorance but out of literary influence. read the classics. plural "pair" was once as common as plural "sheep" or "fish".
I second Anonymous above.
Where is the writer getting his or her information? You are misinforming the good people who read you blog. Although "pair" has fallen out of usage (use?) in the last generation or so, and "pairs" has become more standard, they are both correct.
The above should have read, "...those who read your blog."
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You say "ONE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed." You make a big point of saying this is a singular subject but your verb "sit" does not agree. I am confused.
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If one is referring to hunting dogs, the plural of pair is pair. One has 12 pair of hounds, not 12 pairs.
If one is referring to hunting dogs, the plural of pair is pair. One has 12 pair of hounds, not 12 pairs.
No one who says "one groups" should not attempt to teach anyone English grammar. It is two pairs though.
and the correct tense of the verb is "one pair of shoes SITS under the bed"... remember PAIR, though meaning two, is a singular noun
YES, so if there is a deer in my back yard, and a second one shows up. There are now two deers! Since Webster defines one as "Deer". Now I am clear too!
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It is the word "five pair" which is correct rather than "five pairs". Check for the same in HIGH SCHOOL ENGLISH GRAMMAR by WREN and MARTIN.
I love the people that willingly accept that an anonymous blogger on the net is correct, simply because it agrees with their own personal opinion. ;-)
Every dictionary you look it up in, both online or in print, says both are correct:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pair
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pair
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pair
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pair
And only one I found, the Oxford Learner's Dictionary, considers it correct in informal North American English, but incorrect in written English...(for obvious reasons.
http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/pair_1
But look up what they say the "correct" way to pronounce aluminum is:
http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/aluminium#aluminium__11
...and see if you think they are an authority anywhere in the world outside the UK!) ;-)
It would appear that one should say 'one pair of shoes sits...' since pair is singular. Yes?
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Nope. "I" is correct. Put the word "am" after it and you can tell which is correct.
Don't use the S ever. It's crappy English.
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You wrote "a pair of shoes sit under the bed, but a pair of shoes sits under the bed. "Pair" is the subject and it is third-person singular. (Not having the time to rad all the comments, I apologize if others have already noted it.
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Just as plural of "deer" is "deer", the plural form of "pair" is "pair".
The definition provided by Webster's for the singular form is irrelevant (and doesn't conflict) here.
Some things -- such as grammar -- are inherently independent of democratic consensus.
Note that the plural for "danish" (as in the pastry) is also "danish".
Example:
I ran over three pair of deer while stuffing my face with a bunch of danish.
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Correction of correction of December 26, 2009: "as anal as I" is, in fact, correct. The word "am" is understood to be at the end of the sentence, i.e., "as anal as I am."
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My high school English teacher always said, "a lot is a piece of land. "
So...
Five pairs of shoes (are / is) ~~
"are" is correct?
I appreciate the advice, but when your own grammar is lacking......."more than one groups"???
I noticed that, too.
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When an ad says "two pairs of glasses for $69," am I getting two or four pieces of eyewear?
You wrote: ONE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed... you've made an error here. It should say ONE PAIR of shoes sits under the bed... the pair sits, not the shoes - 'of shoes' is a prepositional phrase. Shoes is not the subject of the sentence, pair is.
In both cases, "a" is an indefinite article before a noun. The noun "lot" sure mean "high number of items" as well as a plot of land. "A" should be separate in both cases.
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"ONE PAIR of shoes sit under the bed...meaning there are two different shoes ..." Is incorrect. One pair of shoes SITS under the bed. There are several errors like that in the post, but the point about pair and pairs is right on.
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